Grateful Dead Live at Broome County Arena on 1983-04-12
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Alabama Getaway-> Greatest Story Ever Told, Bird Song, Minglewood Blues, Peggy-O, Cassidy, Loser, It's All Over Now, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Let It Grow Help On The Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin's Tower-> Lost Sailor-> Saint Of Circumstance-> Terrapin Station-> Drums-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Not Fade Away, E: It's All Over Now Baby Blue
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SBD>PCM>DAT>CDR; with aud patches; See info file for details; via Rick Martin, Willy, and Paul B; Seeded to etree by Ernie Dodd
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Reviewer:
coreyu
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November 13, 2020
Subject: NFA
Subject: NFA
I think there was one show in 82 where they faded out of NFA to end the second set, but for all intents and purposes this was the first show of NFA occupying the closing spot as a regular event. Didn't catch this show but my friends were all very enthusiastic upon returning. Considered a hot show at the time regardless of how it appears to some now. New Haven 4/23 has a killer space/other 1 FWIW.
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Smilin' Dave
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May 15, 2019
Subject: Sounds Great on GDRadio.net!
Subject: Sounds Great on GDRadio.net!
GDradio.net is finishing up playing it right now, and it sounds great on whatever recording they have. It's ... Baby Blue ...
Reviewer:
Pacoperu
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December 12, 2018
Subject: Fun stuff
Subject: Fun stuff
Yes there are huge lyrical flubs -- Jerry is lost in Help and Weir doesn't know what he is singing. The difference being (and it was that way for years) -- when Jerry flubs lyrics, he usually hunches over and wails the rest of the tune. I always looked for the Jerry hunch, when the Fatman had poor posture, it was about to get fun...! When Weir flubs lyrics he hits himself in the head and makes it a joke. Give me Jerry's lyrical miscues over Weirs everytime. I remember Dark Star Miami 89...after the first verse Jerry hunched over....and blast off. Bumper sticker-- the Fatman Hunched --
Reviewer:
njpg
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February 5, 2018
Subject: -
Subject: -
A very bad soundboard with the vocals mixed way too loud. Will listen to an AUD to see if the instrumental quality is any good.
Reviewer:
kbmill
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May 3, 2016
Subject: bread crumb
Subject: bread crumb
In what world do Bird Song and Minglewood run the same length?
Reviewer:
The Dirty Mac
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April 13, 2013
Subject: 4-12-13- Thirty Years Later, Alligator!
Subject: 4-12-13- Thirty Years Later, Alligator!
as we rise and fall
(Been listening to the Archives for years now, reading the reviews, jamming the tunes. this broome county is my first post as a reviewer- i take my hat off and join the circle. my name is The Dirty Mac and i'd like to say "hello." i am humbled to puff the pipe with such distinguished luminaries of the Dead.)
Ok-so-so 1st set until really Let it Grow, then the strange gets on and don't let up. prior to Let it Grow an ok Birdsong, ok Loser, boring All Over Now and a Duprees is always nice to hear, no matter what. but at Let is Grow, Phil and Jerry really get tuned in, 1974 style, and we start going somewhere.
what shall we say, shall we call it by a name?
I think backstage they got rushed (or maybe bumped?) back out- the start of Help on the Way is hurried, choppy, almost awkward. soon enough they shake it off and get down to biznatch, as it were in 1983, fuzzy sideburns and all, somewhere in the twilight of Help, just before they Slip into something more comfortable. imagine a solid layer of smoke fogging through the stage lights right around now, folks settling in, resigning themselves to the roses, to the beacon light of Franklin's Tower. y'all know what i'm talking about. crisp. clear. a waterfall in hawaii. but somehow a faint whif of a polka shuffle- brent?!? the boys all have fun with it
tell you where the four winds dwell
Bottom line: it's not the stoniest or the most rocking H>S>F but you can't argue with it. it's got strong energy, solid intention. read "Calvin Gets Hooked" (2/12/2006) for a better review on this one- I wasn't here, he/she was and it sounds like it was fun.
good bobby call to step it down- he took one for the team- i agree with reviewer L.Rosely (4/30/2009)- he sounds a bit slurred, but hell, can't Bobby have a few brewski's?- he's trying hard to heard them into the groove.
Saint starts kinda loose, mumbly, but that's all preamble, it's all right- bobby don't care, he's got short shorts and he can hear the sirens call, cause you know that he knows that he's gonna go for you fo show.
They find it here, on the late backpages of a saint of circumstance. they are now ready to call for Terrapin, to open the book...
down in carlyle he loved a lady/
many years ago
jerry's guitar is just beautiful in parts of this- running up and down waves, bobby keeping the beacon light burning on shore, calling jerry in; he comes in, billy goes out, phil crashes against the ghosts of the Wall of Sound, but nonetheless,
crickets and cicadas sing a rare and different tune
out of Space with a max headroom/beverly hills cop keyboard Other One (can somebody reign brent in tonight?). jerry slices through that b/s right quick so things can get real with cowboy neal. mmmm-k?
otherwise standard exploration through the jams- i would not say new ground was broken, but a well worn trail was again happily strolled.
Some real nice little noodling around before Wharf Rat and a solid Rat to follow. maybe they were feeling guilty from setbreak? i have heard much more sincere versions, whatever- it's always a prayer to sing along with "I'll Get Up and Fly Away," every time.
Overall with the caveat of not being at this show, my straight rating after a deep headphone listen with a few glasses of wine, I have to say THREE STARS. It's definitely NOT a waste of a Friday evening, but you could also live your life complete without listening to this show.
(Been listening to the Archives for years now, reading the reviews, jamming the tunes. this broome county is my first post as a reviewer- i take my hat off and join the circle. my name is The Dirty Mac and i'd like to say "hello." i am humbled to puff the pipe with such distinguished luminaries of the Dead.)
Ok-so-so 1st set until really Let it Grow, then the strange gets on and don't let up. prior to Let it Grow an ok Birdsong, ok Loser, boring All Over Now and a Duprees is always nice to hear, no matter what. but at Let is Grow, Phil and Jerry really get tuned in, 1974 style, and we start going somewhere.
what shall we say, shall we call it by a name?
I think backstage they got rushed (or maybe bumped?) back out- the start of Help on the Way is hurried, choppy, almost awkward. soon enough they shake it off and get down to biznatch, as it were in 1983, fuzzy sideburns and all, somewhere in the twilight of Help, just before they Slip into something more comfortable. imagine a solid layer of smoke fogging through the stage lights right around now, folks settling in, resigning themselves to the roses, to the beacon light of Franklin's Tower. y'all know what i'm talking about. crisp. clear. a waterfall in hawaii. but somehow a faint whif of a polka shuffle- brent?!? the boys all have fun with it
tell you where the four winds dwell
Bottom line: it's not the stoniest or the most rocking H>S>F but you can't argue with it. it's got strong energy, solid intention. read "Calvin Gets Hooked" (2/12/2006) for a better review on this one- I wasn't here, he/she was and it sounds like it was fun.
good bobby call to step it down- he took one for the team- i agree with reviewer L.Rosely (4/30/2009)- he sounds a bit slurred, but hell, can't Bobby have a few brewski's?- he's trying hard to heard them into the groove.
Saint starts kinda loose, mumbly, but that's all preamble, it's all right- bobby don't care, he's got short shorts and he can hear the sirens call, cause you know that he knows that he's gonna go for you fo show.
They find it here, on the late backpages of a saint of circumstance. they are now ready to call for Terrapin, to open the book...
down in carlyle he loved a lady/
many years ago
jerry's guitar is just beautiful in parts of this- running up and down waves, bobby keeping the beacon light burning on shore, calling jerry in; he comes in, billy goes out, phil crashes against the ghosts of the Wall of Sound, but nonetheless,
crickets and cicadas sing a rare and different tune
out of Space with a max headroom/beverly hills cop keyboard Other One (can somebody reign brent in tonight?). jerry slices through that b/s right quick so things can get real with cowboy neal. mmmm-k?
otherwise standard exploration through the jams- i would not say new ground was broken, but a well worn trail was again happily strolled.
Some real nice little noodling around before Wharf Rat and a solid Rat to follow. maybe they were feeling guilty from setbreak? i have heard much more sincere versions, whatever- it's always a prayer to sing along with "I'll Get Up and Fly Away," every time.
Overall with the caveat of not being at this show, my straight rating after a deep headphone listen with a few glasses of wine, I have to say THREE STARS. It's definitely NOT a waste of a Friday evening, but you could also live your life complete without listening to this show.
Reviewer:
uncjon
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May 4, 2012
Subject: Our LOVE Will Not Fade Away
Subject: Our LOVE Will Not Fade Away
It was a cold spring Tuesday in upstate New York. The circumstance that led to 5 college friends from Clark to end up in Binghampton was serindipitous. No tickets just a desire for adventure and an authentic experince. I was rewarded with one of the special moments in the almost 200 shows I have been Grateful to have attended. The Not Fade Away chant and reprise was the first and went on to define an era. I've been to a lot of special shows and places over the years. The Greek,Frost,Red Rocks,Alpine Valley....New Years,Mardi Gras,Dylan Dead. Of all those this night syicks out. It was MAGIC.
Peace Love Health & Happiness.
Peace Love Health & Happiness.
Reviewer:
swampRatchild
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February 12, 2012
Subject: let it grow
Subject: let it grow
pretty hot show!
Reviewer:
Warfrat63
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February 4, 2012
Subject: B-Town! My second show to grow.
Subject: B-Town! My second show to grow.
It is great being able to play this show almost 29 years later. Was on floor about 10 rows from stage more towards Brent. The entire show was excellent. We clapped and chanted Not Fade for at least 20 minutes at the end of the show.
Ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaah!
Smiles............
One of my top 10 shows for sure.
Thanks goes out to the Archive and source for sharing this.
Ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaah!
Smiles............
One of my top 10 shows for sure.
Thanks goes out to the Archive and source for sharing this.
Reviewer:
L. Rosley
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April 30, 2009
Subject: What's with Bob
Subject: What's with Bob
Bob sounds drunk on Lost Sailor>Saint. Not just forgetting lyrics, but slurring words.
I just heard a show from 1995 (not a good year by any measure) where both Bob and Jerry vocals sounded better than they do here.
I just heard a show from 1995 (not a good year by any measure) where both Bob and Jerry vocals sounded better than they do here.
Reviewer:
Cnick
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January 29, 2008
Subject: G1
Subject: G1
Good show great source... check out the Loser. Reminiscent of '84.
Thanks SKB.
Thanks SKB.
Reviewer:
iluvthedead
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January 29, 2008
Subject: 1st row center 3rd show of many
Subject: 1st row center 3rd show of many
Man....what can I say..the jam was awesome great setlist..really loud as I remember. Help-slip-frank and the Not fade Away was magic the band left the stage for literally 10 min and the crowd chanted NFA for the whole time......to the point where the band came out for the encore and continued an extended NFA into encore of "Baby blue" True magic that night.
Reviewer:
northstar dead
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September 14, 2007
Subject: Brent Time
Subject: Brent Time
Some really nice playing by the boys. Check out the sweet Bird Song with Jerry hitting all the high notes
Reviewer:
dreamingtree
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June 17, 2007
Subject: brent is solid
Subject: brent is solid
This is another shbow wher evrything seems to mesh.
The review below me where he says brent sounds like he is playing a kids keyboard is way offff!
listen to it and you will see why he was one of the band! he must have hated when Hornsby played with them. This show is awesome. Have a listen to wharf rat.
The review below me where he says brent sounds like he is playing a kids keyboard is way offff!
listen to it and you will see why he was one of the band! he must have hated when Hornsby played with them. This show is awesome. Have a listen to wharf rat.
Reviewer:
keysareme
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July 6, 2006
Subject: Brent on H>S>F
Subject: Brent on H>S>F
The Charlie Miller set two source is magnificent. I love Brents work here, makes use of all his wonderful resources, some would call them toys, others would call them keyboards, I myself, think of them as both. I love this, EXTREMELELY solid performance here. You will not be upset.
-Garret
-Garret
Reviewer:
smgarcia
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June 26, 2006
Subject: Hate that Organ
Subject: Hate that Organ
Listen to the beginning of Help On The Way. How can anybody like that toy piano sound? It's awful! It sounds like cheap, low-bit 50 key piano you would buy at a Toy's-R-US. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Brent's piano was not a welcome addition to the band.
The piano is even worse in SlipknoT. Ugh. The rest of the show is pretty good, it's a good show when you don't hear brent's piano (although I do like it when he sings, strangely enough.)
The piano is even worse in SlipknoT. Ugh. The rest of the show is pretty good, it's a good show when you don't hear brent's piano (although I do like it when he sings, strangely enough.)
Reviewer:
mutron freak
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February 16, 2006
Subject: slip
Subject: slip
this slipknot is very exploratory
listen to it & love the 80s
listen to it & love the 80s
Reviewer:
clavin
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February 12, 2006
Subject: clavin gets hooked
Subject: clavin gets hooked
my buddy and i were in eleventh grade in syracuse and we took a roadie to cortland to meet a friend in coll. there. while waiting for him on his front porch we had nothing better to do than empty some beers and wrap up a couple.thats when we learned from the owner of the house the college kids lived next door.sorry bout that.a beginning to a life altering day.im only 16 at the time and all about mind expansion,and when i looked around our section of people during franklins power,it was a sea of swirlers swimming as one.never saw nothin like that at any stones or who show.one organism with one goal,gettin their groove on.nite after nite.
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February 2, 2006
Subject: Help On The Way
Subject: Help On The Way
featuring Brent's Amazing Technicolor.
Reviewer:
Dish from Larry
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January 12, 2006
Subject: Great shows
Subject: Great shows
This show, and the next night in Burlington, are perhaps the best back-to-back ever. The energy was amazing, the band was really on, and both were 'dripping with factor'. I will agree that there was some missed vocals, but who goes to hear Jerry sing? A 'Show' is on when Jerry and Phil are in sync, and they are dead on here. I was maybe 20 feet from Garcia, and he was visably annoyed with himself for blowing the first line of Help (He sang ÃÂHelp on the wayÃÂ instead of ÃÂParadise WaitsÃÂ), so, to make up for it, his first note of Slipnot! was so thunderously loud, I thought the roof of the Arena had been blown off. The place shook like an earthquake. Later, Lesh drops bombs during Terrapin that knocked the wind from my lungs. Amazing
Reviewer:
toughmama
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December 6, 2005
Subject: What are you people thinking!!!
Subject: What are you people thinking!!!
Don't get me wrong. I love this show, and any show for that matter. But "the best Help>slip>frank of the year" Come on. Jerry starts of mumbling the wrong verse. Both Jerry and Bob are off all night "vocally" Instrumental-wise there on. You can tell Bob gets fed-up with Jerrys mumbling, then gets pissed at himself for fumbling during saint. Love bobs added line in saint of cirr. the "Just exactly what the fu** you going do now" Everything aside It's an awesome show no matter what happens. I'm just suprised nobody else mentioned Jerry's mumbling the 1st verse of help. Should be "Paradise waits...." not "help on the way" 4****'s
Reviewer:
utopian
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July 8, 2005
Subject: sounds a bit muffled
Subject: sounds a bit muffled
check out some of the audences from 83 for the good sound quality like:
6-28-83
8-27-83
9-2-83
6-28-83
8-27-83
9-2-83
Reviewer:
MindBender65
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April 29, 2005
Subject: Go for it
Subject: Go for it
I love that carnival like sound from Brent on Duprees.
Reviewer:
Shiva Ho
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April 7, 2005
Subject: Spring 83 Tour!
Subject: Spring 83 Tour!
Ah yes this show was one of the Hottest of this awesome Spring Tour. Best Help>Slip>Franklins of the tour! It was also the last time they played in this rinky dink hockey rink & my last east coast tour before moving to the west coast in june.
Reviewer:
skb archives
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January 23, 2005
Subject: Source
Subject: Source
This is not a PCM recording. There are analog gens in there...cm
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September 17, 2004
Subject: Get It
Subject: Get It
Agree with last reviewer. '83 was a great year in my opinion, a turning point. Lots of very hot versions of "standard" songs. This show has a good list for '83 as well as well played versions. My first of about 90 was 6/21/83 so I missed this one, but it was an early tape. Hot show and this is a nice board. Great to hear after the muddy board I got about 6 years ago. Highly recommended. (Also of note for '83, couple new toys in the mix. That was the first year Phil played the 6-string Modulus bass, and the fist year Mickey toured with the bialiphone, which I thought was unreal. That was large curved xylophone deal. He tore it up on that thing during the '85 east coast/midwest tours.)
Reviewer:
tom knoebel
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August 27, 2004
Subject: Fine Wine The quality of this is Crisp like the Night I was there!!!!
Subject: Fine Wine The quality of this is Crisp like the Night I was there!!!!
All of 83's shows upstate and in the north east were smokin'. This year was a peak for the band and the fans. Brent really gelled and finally the tension was all gone for all band members to find there space. Old pig pen tunes were comming out of the closet.The Haight was shining through. This binghamton show cranked up everyone there. It was like a private dance party at the Avalon Ballroom all over. This was also the tour of Jerry in RED TEE'S. I was at Oswego State at the time and clear 4 way was in circulation. there was a group of about 300 heads from SUNY Oswego. The fall tour highlights were MSG,Lake Acid,Hartford, and the much neglected Worchester,Mass. Scoop up all the venues if you can.Summer in Sarratoga Springs!!!
Reviewer:
sheikyerbouti
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August 22, 2004
Subject: This is an electric show
Subject: This is an electric show
Everything on this sizzles and have prob listend this abt 600x - had a crytal clear nak audience 1st gen the day after and was blown away at how hot this was 20 years ago and feel the same way today... cousin did byrne 2 nights and this - everything on this sizzles... tight 1st set and hypnotic and trippy second set with smokin other one not wharf rat not fade it does not let up...
There are some incredible trading on and off in this show between the boys listen to the beginning of let it grow all over now, lost sailor terrapin - the space> other one is outrageous, garcia's guitar sings he does not just lead the jam 6 songs before drums and music is played with such complete confidence - if wharf rat is a good litmus test if he reaches for that high note on evvverrrone saaays - he reaches it here and smacks the whole arena around with it..... Brent is really notable in this show all the way around.
The irony of this is Binghampton is one of the most god-awful places they ever played but man did they love this town and played 3 smoking shows between 1970 and this their last. These upstate NY hockey arenas, Lake Placid, Glenns Falls, Utica, Syracuse, Ithaca, Rochester etc did something special for them not sure if it was the college kids or the appreciative crowd but you can do a whole retrospective just on these shows an anchor in this unbelievable journey.
There are some incredible trading on and off in this show between the boys listen to the beginning of let it grow all over now, lost sailor terrapin - the space> other one is outrageous, garcia's guitar sings he does not just lead the jam 6 songs before drums and music is played with such complete confidence - if wharf rat is a good litmus test if he reaches for that high note on evvverrrone saaays - he reaches it here and smacks the whole arena around with it..... Brent is really notable in this show all the way around.
The irony of this is Binghampton is one of the most god-awful places they ever played but man did they love this town and played 3 smoking shows between 1970 and this their last. These upstate NY hockey arenas, Lake Placid, Glenns Falls, Utica, Syracuse, Ithaca, Rochester etc did something special for them not sure if it was the college kids or the appreciative crowd but you can do a whole retrospective just on these shows an anchor in this unbelievable journey.
Reviewer:
calvirgil
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July 23, 2004
Subject: from meat-packing to magic
Subject: from meat-packing to magic
I was living in Scranton, PA at the time, working at a slaughterhouse of all places. John Ruby and I hung out alot, both of us having been into the Dead a few years. He cut frozen cube-shaped pieces of bad beef for Campbell's all day long on a band saw while I packed 50% soy 50% bad beef patties in boxes destined for nursing homes and the like.
The Dead were coming to Broome County Arena!
Just a 45-minute drive from Scranton--John couldn't make it, I didn't want to go alone. After work on 4/12/83, I got the urge to just wing it, without a ticket, and drive up I-81.
I got to Broome County Arena about 30 minutes before show time, and as soon as I got to the main entrance, some guy in the crowd yelled 'Ticket!', and I was in.
This show was unbelievable. First of all, the stage was only about 2 feet high, basically at ground level, and you could walk right up and almost touch the band members. Needless to say, I wormed my way up to the front and stayed there the whole show. I didn't even pee.
Garcia's voice was great, as was his playing, and the whole band was tighter than I ever saw them. The crowd went wild when they pulled out such gems as 'Wharf Rat', 'Let it Grow', the Blues for Allah classics 'Slipknot' and 'Help on the Way', and then 'Lost Sailor' and 'Terrapin'. Unbelievable sets, and I remember Garcia's hair hanging down, head bowed as he was jamming, a mere 10 feet from me. I wasn't even tripping, but I was tripping natural-like.
I will never forget that show. It still exists in timeless time-space,
really a magical show.
The sound quality of this download isn't absolutely perfect, but it definitely captures the essence of this show. Sounds great outa my polk audios!
The Dead were coming to Broome County Arena!
Just a 45-minute drive from Scranton--John couldn't make it, I didn't want to go alone. After work on 4/12/83, I got the urge to just wing it, without a ticket, and drive up I-81.
I got to Broome County Arena about 30 minutes before show time, and as soon as I got to the main entrance, some guy in the crowd yelled 'Ticket!', and I was in.
This show was unbelievable. First of all, the stage was only about 2 feet high, basically at ground level, and you could walk right up and almost touch the band members. Needless to say, I wormed my way up to the front and stayed there the whole show. I didn't even pee.
Garcia's voice was great, as was his playing, and the whole band was tighter than I ever saw them. The crowd went wild when they pulled out such gems as 'Wharf Rat', 'Let it Grow', the Blues for Allah classics 'Slipknot' and 'Help on the Way', and then 'Lost Sailor' and 'Terrapin'. Unbelievable sets, and I remember Garcia's hair hanging down, head bowed as he was jamming, a mere 10 feet from me. I wasn't even tripping, but I was tripping natural-like.
I will never forget that show. It still exists in timeless time-space,
really a magical show.
The sound quality of this download isn't absolutely perfect, but it definitely captures the essence of this show. Sounds great outa my polk audios!
Reviewer:
eorchant
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June 22, 2004
Subject: you shudda been thre..
Subject: you shudda been thre..
Anyone who caught this gem in real time back in 1983 knows that is well worth the trip. Great show from start to end..great song selection and a pretty decent soundboard from that era. A few bumps in the sound early on, but gets better as the show goes on.
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